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#1 Jeremy

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:28 PM

I have seen people talking about the height in other topics before but I have really never seen a definitive answer. Is it possible that the building height in the game could ever be increased?


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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:36 PM

With the current system, it would mean that the world files would double in size, and probably you couldn't play anymore the older devices (which don't have enough RAM)

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:38 PM

So it is possible, but its unlikely to happen unless the world files change which would render the old worlds useless?


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Posted 24 February 2015 - 10:09 PM

Not necessarily; the current worlds could be kept, as Ari would simply have to add more blocks above the other ones. I don't exactly remember mrob's analysis of Eden's chunk / file system, but in any case the required amount of memory would increase — not necessarily double, that depends on the number of free (air) blocks [chunk slots] that are added. As i said above im not sure if that process would work on already generated worlds, that depends on the file saving system of Eden which i don't know.

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 10:14 PM

Seems to be a height of 64 right now. Increasing it would raise it to 128, which would double the size since Ari seems to save every single block in the chunk. 



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Posted 25 February 2015 - 12:32 AM

It's gonna have to be a while. :/ When most people have at least iOS 7 or 8
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Posted 25 February 2015 - 09:18 PM

Like vuenc said, this would be counter intuitive for Ari to do because a lot less people would be able to play. The current eden is already rather strenuous on my iPad 2's RAM and considering a lot of people still have iPad 2s I don't think the height will be raised soon. It shocks me to see new apps come out that list iPad 2 as one of the incompatible devices.

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:14 PM

New build height would be so useful for building something like the Jetsons or Jack and the beanstalk or Rainbow Road. There are so many possibilities that could be achieved, and I think it should be a huge focus for further updates. This is just IMO though.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:27 PM

I vote for height of 128... regardless of it making older devices incompatible. 


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:38 PM

I vote for height of 128... regardless of it making older devices incompatible. 

I agree. If people have incompatible older devices, then tough beans.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 09:53 PM

That's ridiculous. Very many eden users have an iPad 2. Ari would lose a large chunk of players
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:06 PM

I'd wait til next ipad release to increase building height

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:09 PM

Ya I guess, as long as it coincides with iOS 9 I think that would be okay

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:18 PM

Ios 9 will release with iPhone 6 s/7

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:46 PM

I'm sorry, but technology moves forward. I don't like the idea that people who use newer devices have to be blocked from a better gaming experience because other people use an older device. Those people should play an older version of the game that runs on their devices. Separate it out. Then keep moving the game forward according to Apple's guidelines in line with new iOS and device releases. 



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Posted 27 February 2015 - 12:50 AM

It's too soon! Right now, the risk of how many people that couldn't play Eden outweighs the benefit of a bigger height.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 01:05 AM

Why wouldn't they be able to play it? They just wouldn't be able to update it because their device wouldn't support it. They would still be able to play the old version wouldn't they? It has been a while since I had a device that wasn't supported but I thought the apps still worked they just didn't get updates anymore.

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 01:22 AM

Higher building limit = more data, which = more memory required, which = a need for a newer device!
And yes, they'd still be able to play Eden w/o updating, BUT any uploaded world that had the extended limit wouldn't be downloadable for them!
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 02:00 AM

Yes, true, there would have to be either a separation of world lists (a separate list for each game version), or if a world from the new version were loaded on the old version, it would just have to cut it off at the height limit and anything above wouldn't be seen. That option doesn't feel very good...

 

I had thought that Apple sets the guidelines for which devices are to be supported, anyway (if not enforcing it themselves). I don't know the details here.



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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:28 PM

I just hate how apple pressures people into obsessive brand loyalty. A taller height limit isn't worth the price of a new iPad for me, and if this means I'd have to give up sharing worlds...
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